Hardanger d'Amore - User contributions [en]

Strings

2023-05-31T09:07:25Z

Salve:

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Some background by [[Salve Håkedal]]:

When I made that first hardanger d'amore for Dan, I put on traditional hardangerfiddle strings, gauge 11 with a G-string 11,5 to give better balance to some viola C for the 5th string. Hardangerfiddle strings are thin compared to violin strings, and the thinnest viola C that I could find was Dominant light gauge. This worked OK, but (for players with little previous hardangerfiddle experience,) this can feel rather soft and flimsy.

After Dan did his testing, I started to use what he had picked and put on traditional hardangerfiddle strings only for players who's main instrument I knew was the normal hardangerfiddle.

Hardanger d'amores are relatively light and thin to keep them in the hardangerfiddle tradition with that charateristic sound and feel.. I encouraged the players to experiment with strings, but stick with light gauge, because I was afraid that the instruments would not take too much tension. After 10 years, I've seen that they can probably take medium gauge too; they seem to stand up to aging rather well. But I'd still avoid heavy gauge: hardangerfiddles as well as hardanger d'amores are built for a full and rich sound. Not for maximum decibel!

Sympathetic strings:
If you attempt to fit normal hardanger fiddle sympathetic strings to the hardanger d'amore, you will probably struggle to attach them to the two pegs closest to the head. I have made Knut Oppheimsbakken at Valdres Folkemuseum make longer sympathetic strings and I keep them in store.
But you won't have to change them often. (Just keep them clean.)
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Strings

2023-05-31T09:07:01Z

Salve:

<blockquote>
Strings:

Some background by [[Salve Håkedal]]:

When I made that first hardanger d'amore for Dan, I put on traditional hardangerfiddle strings, gauge 11 with a G-string 11,5 to give better balance to some viola C for the 5th string. Hardangerfiddle strings are thin compared to violin strings, and the thinnest viola C that I could find was Dominant light gauge. This worked OK, but (for players with little previous hardangerfiddle experience,) this can feel rather soft and flimsy.

After Dan did his testing, I started to use what he had picked and put on traditional hardangerfiddle strings only for players who's main instrument I knew was the normal hardangerfiddle.

Hardanger d'amores are relatively light and thin to keep them in the hardangerfiddle tradition with that charateristic sound and feel.. I encouraged the players to experiment with strings, but stick with light gauge, because I was afraid that the instruments would not take too much tension. After 10 years, I've seen that they can probably take medium gauge too; they seem to stand up to aging rather well. But I'd still avoid heavy gauge: hardangerfiddles as well as hardanger d'amores are built for a full and rich sound. Not for maximum decibel!

Sympathetic strings:
If you attempt to fit normal hardanger fiddle sympathetic strings to the hardanger d'amore, you will probably struggle to attach them to the two pegs closest to the head. I have made Knut Oppheimsbakken at Valdres Folkemuseum make longer sympathetic strings and I keep them in store.
But you won't have to change them often. (Just keep them clean.)
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Strings

2020-08-18T11:18:03Z

Salve:

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Strings:

[[Dan Trueman]] did extensive string tests when he got the first hardanger d'amore. The strings he uses are, as of August 2019:

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:C: Chorda silver viola 22
:G: Eudoxa G 15.25
:D: Eudoxa D 16.25
:A: Eudoxa A 13.25
:E: Gold Label E thin ball end
</blockquote>

Some background by [[Salve Håkedal]]:

When I made that first hardanger d'amore for Dan, I put on traditional hardangerfiddle strings, gauge 11 with a G-string 11,5 to give better balance to some viola C for the 5th string. Hardangerfiddle strings are thin compared to violin strings, and the thinnest viola C that I could find was Dominant light gauge. This worked OK, but (for players with little previous hardangerfiddle experience,) this can feel rather soft and flimsy.

After Dan did his testing, I started to use what he had picked and put on traditional hardangerfiddle strings only for players who's main instrument I knew was the normal hardangerfiddle.

Hardanger d'amores are relatively light and thin to keep them in the hardangerfiddle tradition with that charateristic sound and feel.. I encouraged the players to experiment with strings, but stick with light gauge, because I was afraid that the instruments would not take too much tension. After 10 years, I've seen that they can probably take medium gauge too; they seem to stand up to aging rather well. But I'd still avoid heavy gauge: hardangerfiddles as well as hardanger d'amores are built for a full and rich sound. Not for maximum decibel!

Sympathetic strings:
If you attempt to fit normal hardanger fiddle sympathetic strings to the hardanger d'amore, you will probably struggle to attach them to the two pegs closest to the head. I have made Knut Oppheimsbakken at Valdres Folkemuseum make longer sympathetic strings and I keep them in store.
But you won't have to change them often. (Just keep them clean.)
</blockquote>

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Salve Håkedal

2019-09-02T20:05:54Z

Salve:

[[File:Salvehakk.jpg|thumb]]
In 2010 I was happy to recieve an email from Daniel Trueman. He'd got my name from Vidar Lande.

Daniel wrote:
"...
I am writing to ask some questions about a possible instrument; i am not sure i'll be able to go forward with having one made, but i'd like to see what might be possible. In particular, i'm interested in a 5-string fiddle, inspired by the Setestalfeles that Vidar has told me about -- intended to be tuned a little lower than the hardanger fiddle, a bit of a fatter sound, but still with the sympathetic strings of course, ...
...
Is this something you might be interested in doing?
...
"

Of course I was interested!

A normal hardanger fiddle (or setesdal/bastard fiddle) has a string length of around 30mm, and is mostly tuned 1 step higher than a violin. The violin string length is around 33mm. After some thinking, I sketched a fiddle with the lengthwise proportions of a hardanger fiddle, but enlarged enough to reach the string length of a violin. That would make it suited for tuning to normal violin pitch. But at the same time, the larger body would hopefully give a 5th string a somewhat viola-like sound.

When Daniel came to get it, it fell quite nicely into his hands, and he said something like "just wait until a certain person tries this". I hardly could make Daniel sit down for a loaf of bread and cup of tea, before he ran off to Ireland with it!

The rest is ... hmm, what can I say? Definitely beyond my control!

http://www.fiolinmaker.no

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Salve Håkedal

2019-09-02T20:05:17Z

Salve:

[[File:Salvehakk.jpg|thumb]]
In 2010 I was happy to recieve an email from Daniel Trueman. He'd got my name from Vidar Lande.

Daniel wrote:
"...
I am writing to ask some questions about a possible instrument; i am not sure i'll be able to go forward with having one made, but i'd like to see what might be possible. In particular, i'm interested in a 5-string fiddle, inspired by the Setestalfeles that Vidar has told me about -- intended to be tuned a little lower than the hardanger fiddle, a bit of a fatter sound, but still with the sympathetic strings of course, ...
...
Is this something you might be interested in doing?
...
"

Of course I was interested!

A normal hardanger fiddle (or setesdal/bastard fiddle) has a string length of around 30mm, and is mostly tuned 1 step higher than a violin. The violin string length is around 33mm. After some thinking, I sketched a fiddle with the lengthwise proportions of a hardanger fiddle, but enlarged enough to reach the string length of a violin. That would make it suited for tuning to normal violin pitch. But at the same time, the larger body would hopefully give a 5th string a somewhat viola-like sound.

When Daniel came to get it, it fell quite nicely into his hands, and he said something like "just wait until a certain person tries this". I hardly could make Daniel sit down for a loaf of bread and cup of tea, before he ran off to Ireland with it!

The rest is ... hmm, what can I say? Definitely beyond my control!

***
http://www.fiolinmaker.no

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Salve Håkedal

2019-08-29T12:06:28Z

Salve:

File:Salvehakk.jpg

2019-08-29T12:05:24Z

Salve:

Salve Håkedal

2019-08-29T11:56:30Z

Salve:

[[File:salvehakk.jpg|thumb]]
In 2010 I was happy to recieve an email from Daniel Trueman. He'd got my name from Vidar Lande.

Daniel wrote:
"...
I am writing to ask some questions about a possible instrument; i am not sure i'll be able to go forward with having one made, but i'd like to see what might be possible. In particular, i'm interested in a 5-string fiddle, inspired by the Setestalfeles that Vidar has told me about -- intended to be tuned a little lower than the hardanger fiddle, a bit of a fatter sound, but still with the sympathetic strings of course, ...
...
Is this something you might be interested in doing?
...
"

Of course I was interested!

A normal hardanger fiddle (or setesdal/bastard fiddle) has a string length of around 30mm, and is mostly tuned 1 step higher than a violin. The violin string length is around 33mm. After some thinking, I sketched a fiddle with the lengthwise proportions of a hardanger fiddle, but enlarged enough to reach the string length of a violin. That would make it suited for tuning to normal violin pitch. But at the same time, the larger body would hopefully give a 5th string a somewhat viola-like sound.

When Daniel came to get it, it fell quite nicely into his hands, and he said something like "just wait until a certain person tries this". I hardly could make Daniel sit down for a loaf of bread and cup of tea, before he ran off to Ireland with it!

The rest is ... hmm, what can I say? Definitely beyond my control!

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Salve Håkedal

2019-08-29T11:54:31Z

Salve:

[[File:Salve skjaerer k.jpg|thumb]]
In 2010 I was happy to recieve an email from Daniel Trueman. He'd got my name from Vidar Lande.

Daniel wrote:
"...
I am writing to ask some questions about a possible instrument; i am not sure i'll be able to go forward with having one made, but i'd like to see what might be possible. In particular, i'm interested in a 5-string fiddle, inspired by the Setestalfeles that Vidar has told me about -- intended to be tuned a little lower than the hardanger fiddle, a bit of a fatter sound, but still with the sympathetic strings of course, ...
...
Is this something you might be interested in doing?
...
"

Of course I was interested!

A normal hardanger fiddle (or setesdal/bastard fiddle) has a string length of around 30mm, and is mostly tuned 1 step higher than a violin. The violin string length is around 33mm. After some thinking, I sketched a fiddle with the lengthwise proportions of a hardanger fiddle, but enlarged enough to reach the string length of a violin. That would make it suited for tuning to normal violin pitch. But at the same time, the larger body would hopefully give a 5th string a somewhat viola-like sound.

When Daniel came to get it, it fell quite nicely into his hands, and he said something like "just wait until a certain person tries this". I hardly could make Daniel sit down for a loaf of bread and cup of tea, before he ran off to Ireland with it!

The rest is ... hmm, what can I say? Definitely beyond my control!

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Salve Håkedal

2019-08-29T11:53:29Z

Salve:

Salve Håkedal

2019-08-29T11:28:19Z

Salve: